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That was last year ! They are nowhere near that good this year. and no they werent one of the best teams in all of the state last year. are you kidding, they narrowly escaped at Nazareth last year, and played many close games in the LVC. North Allegheny would have mopped the floor with ACC last year and most likely a D1 school would have stopped them easily before they got the chance to get there.
And you want to make the case of size ? Nazareth in 2002 came into the LVC with 1000 students, Stroudsburg and Pleasant Valley who play in the MVC also had the same numbers when they joined the 4A…If they cannot play 4A than take ACC and go to a different conference or go independent… It is beyond unfair to let them continually play 4A talent and then drop for districts and states.
The better competition you play, the better the program will be, and the other 3A schools are suffering because this is being allowed to continue
Its funny how the smallest 4A school in the LVC won the championship this year…GET OFF THE ACC BANDWAGON ..IT WAS ONE YEAR
@Fan
you want beca and acc to play quad A?….acc has 700 kids in the entire school and beca does not have many more….parkland has over 1600 boys in their school…acc is a couple boys over being able to play double A…same with Beca but the LVC would never allow it….they would be thrown out of the league…
as for how good triple A is…obviously you don’t know much about football….acc was agruably the best team in the state last year regardless of class….as is arch bishop wood this year….an don’t forget about double a west catholic last year….
get it right and grow up or stay off the site…..
@ Dan, I agree Nazareth isnt strong in the trenches consistently, but they have given Harding a lot of time to throw, will be interesting, speed kills however and they got a ton of it across the board.
@ Dog
Yea looking back at ACC schedule, it was the easiest of the LVC schools by far, they didnt have to play easton, and got to the priveledge of playing the two JV teams in Allen and Dieruff.
More reason for the LVC and D11 to make a case for them to become a 4A team. 5-5 isnt worthy of a district berth ..and when they played the top of the LVC this year 34-24 L to Freedom, 31-30 L to Nazareth, 36-28 L to whitehall, and a 63-40 L to Parkland.
Sorry, I love the talent of Nosovitch and Gulyas, they are all-time great D11 players but not a complete team..shouldn’t make districts at 5-5
Good write up nice ti see someone who makes picks and has good reasoning for it good stuff should beca great week in D1 where u going this week im heading to north penn see that classic match up
@ Bill Shaughnessy
Stone (D1) said he and Robert Coleman, the D-12 chairman, agreed that higher-seeded teams would host games in the subregional even before the identities of the four teams were established. So I guess they are just going by that.
BTW, what difference does it make if we play on grass or turf?
@SEPAGuru,
I would pretty much think Central Valley out of D-7 (WPIAL) is pretty strong. Knoch & Franklin Regional I am not very sure about. I think Central Valley or McDevitt get to Hershey this year. Grove City always plays pretty good football too out of D-10…
I think Pennsbury beats Coatesville, NP over Neshaminy, CRS over D-town East, & Garnet Valley over CBS!
Johnny mo
I’m surprised that you feel Glen Mills is not very impressive? Glen Mills only lost to Downingtown East by 1 point in a very close game. Yet Downingtown East beat ACC by 3 TD’s and put 61 up on the board. Wood had their JV in the game vs Glen Mills in the 2nd Q with the Mercy rule.
No denying Conwell Egan, Mastery Charter and Carroll are not very good teams but I would not classify Louis D,William Allen,Northampton,or Becca as good teams either. Every good team seems to have easy games on their schedule, including ACC.
Regarding the ACC/Wood discussion. I am ACC alum from the 1990’s when ACC was dominant. I have seen every ACC game for the last 3 years, ACC will struggle big time with wood IF that happens. I am not sure that they get past Valley View assuming they beat Dallas. ACC coaches do a great job, a few of my former teamates. They do not have the kids this year. They are awful on defense. Anthing can happen yes but I do not see them beating wood at all.
As far as the schedule, Wood’s schedule is a lot better than last year but it is not in comparison to ACC. In fact it is not even close. But that is not Wood’s fault, they scheduled PCC so they obviously are not running from anyone. To be as good as Wood is/was predicted to be you have to give them credit for scheduling PCC, that takes some guts. But overall schedule is nowhere near as good.
@mgguy
if we count them i would put them in right after ridily you are right but i do no they dont play teams like phs whithall nazrith
@dick beck
I’m assuming this actually isn’t North Penn’s coach, correct..? Also, yes they are brothers.
@Lloyd
Coatesville over Pennsbury
I agree with the size assessment. However this year’s Coatesville team isn’t hurting for size like it was last year when they got trampled by CB West. Additionally, Coatesville has too much team speed. That size and speed separates it from other teams that Pennsbury has seen.
Central Bucks South over Garnet Valley
Simply put, Garnet Valley hasn’t seen a team with a passing attack quite like CB South’s. When you’re a team used to 75% run, that no-huddle spread offense is a huge change. Most importantly though would be Dan Brown. He may be district 1’s best kept secret but boy is he a weapon. One of the best athletes I’ve seen in a while. Of course this is all moot if CB South’s defense doesn’t play well but having seen a triple option the previous week should help.
Downingtown East over Council Rock South
Seen a lot of Council Rock South film and their game Friday. If Upper Dublin was a little bigger and didn’t have so many kids playing two ways, we’d be talking about UD vs DTE right now. Downingtown East has that size and coaching to be disciplined and shut down the run and ability to throw the ball. Provided that DTE can give Lauletta time which I think they can, Downingtown East will pull out the win.
One player matchup I’ll be interested to see is DTE’s Jack Willenbrock vs CRS’s Andrew Cohen. If DTE’s coaches are smart, they’ll move Jack to right guard because Cohen is a very good player.
@SEPAGuru
I have Np same as you and the other 3 diffrent but I was going of of rep mostly.So cantsay your wrong Idid see PHS play and they are by fair the biggest team in D1 but that can only mean so much…. I Like north penn to win D1 but not a cake walk …and that is Dalton and Brandons Brother Kids a play maker on D I wish they put him on O. What are your reasnings for thous picks?
To Big East-
No D3 teams? Cumberland Valley and Wilson WL have two of the highest winning percentages in the state in the last 10-12 years, have won D3 titles and been to state semis. Both have done more than Whitehall, Nazareth, Pennsbury. I realize D3 is in the west bracket, but they are here in the east!
@SEPAGuru
Like all your picks….. but do you know if Shawn Pepper is Dalton and Brandons little brother? I saw his name on phs the rostor #10
@SEPA:
NP over Neshaminy
CRS over D-Town East
Coatesville over Pennsbury (though I hope not)
Garnet over CBS
Yes i do. More difficult schedule then woods schedule. Glens mills isn’t that imprsseive either.
Anyone know the best 3A teams from out west? I know Bishop McDevitt is a traditional power.
D1 Picks:
North Penn over Neshaminy
Coatesville over Pennsbury
Downingtown East over Council Rock South
Central Bucks South over Garnet Valley
Thoughts?
is there any I am missing ?
That was the best i no you can flip some around but is there any I am missing ?
Johnny Mo
The non league schedule is set out two yrs in advance. Wood and LaSalle are trying to get on each others schedules, but it can’t happen overnight. Last year, LaSalle would have beaten Wood. This year, Wood wins by 2 Td’s. Nothing against LaSalle(very good team) but Wood on a different level this year. I have seen both at least 6 x this year.
Regarding schedules- Wood only has 3 teams in their conference(Ohara,Bonner, and Carroll). Carroll and Bonner have not been very good the last several years, but Ohara is usually a very good team. This year is a down year for Ohara(very young team). So Wood has to go find other games to play. They scheduled PCC as the opening game, and played to a virtual tie. How can you complain about that? They scheduled West Catholic-State Champion and in the mix every year. Glen Mills-won their conference but got shallacked by Wood. They tried to get North Penn but they were already scheduled with LaSalle. They scheduled ST. Joe’s Prep 3 yrs ago. How was Wood supposed to know Brooks would be fired and they would fall apart? They do go out and look for high profile games.
Do you really think the schedule ACC played is an extremely tough schedule? Not being smart, just trying to make a point.
ACC has some very weak teams on their schedule every year like most teams. it is just the way it is.
@Fan
If Parkland gets into states, their physicality might get them somewhere. However, I don’t believe Nazareth is going to make noise if they get there. They have nice skill guys, but their O-line is mediocre and their D is not very physical at all.
Ok you guys had me thinking here are my 4A Powers in the last 10 to 12 years just for fun Ill do the best I can
#1 North Penn 1 state and 5 D1 tittles
#2 Lasall…..1 state tittle been in 2 and 3 Catholic League tittles
#3 Neshaminy….1 state tittle been in 2 and 2 D1 tittles
#4 Liberty …1 state tittle been in 3 and 3 D11 tittles
#5 Parkland 1 state tittle been in 2 and 2 D11 tittles
#6 Saint Joe’s Prep 4 Catholic League tittles
#7 Easton…4 D11 tittles
#8 Ridly….2 D1 tittles
#9 Pennsbury….. 1 D1 Tittle
#10 Nazareth
#11 Whitehall
Parkland at Nazareth – going to be a great rematch, so much talent on both teams, winner is going to suprise people in state tournament.
With Allen and Dieruff bailing to the MVC, is it time that ACC and Becahi come play AAAA ball come playoff time?
ACC has enormous talent but couldnt get out of the LVC above .500 but they become a state contender at AAA…. does this say something about AAA ..is there that big of gap ?
ACC has great talent but i would like to see them make the jump, kind of tired of hearing about how good they are when in reality , they took some very big losses this year at the hands of LVC opponents
The West Catholic – Springfield (Montco) game should be played on a turf and neutral field . Not on someone’s home field. What are they thinking, Is this fairness?
But lets get one thing straight. Wood doesn’t play any good teams with the exception of PCC. And don’t even bring up west catholic because they play the same weak teams. Funny how they don’t play la salle.
Im an ACC fan but I really can’t see them getting past wood this year. Maybe this could turn into an amazing rivalry for years to come. If ACC makes it there they would have to get past Valley View who is supposedly loaded… Our only problem is that we have one big guy on the line