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Welcome to the official forum on high school football for the 2018 season.
During the off-season let’s talk about players, recruiting news, teams and everything about high school football.
During the season each week let’s talk about match-ups and how teams did. Let us know what player(s) stood out each week.
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Looks like schedules are 90 % complete. Noticed a few with week #1 missing. When will schedules be completely done?
phillyboy back at it again — cause you know this stuff is therapeutic man.
Toby, not a bad rant, came out swinging with some creative lines, fueled by sincere exasperation. I sure hope you’re right about Coatesville. They got a stud QB coming back, started last year as a sophomore. Kid has what it takes to win a 6A state title: confidence, hunger, football instincts plus a nice skill set. Kid can scramble like nobody’s business; not to THAT extent but he is almost a little reminiscent of Eugene Jarvis how he bounces off players. And if I’m not mistaken they have most of their excellent skill players back — I hope I’m right on that. I’m all in with Coatesville BABY! — this year’s version of the ‘great public hope’ — at least on this side of the state.
Daryl, yes, apparently some publics do acquire some players here and there but here’s the thing: the privates tend to pluck the elite players (must be nice) and the publics are then left to deal with the fallout. Look, if McCray hadn’t absconded to the Prep, North Penn wouldn’t have had a need to accept the Norristown transfer. I absolutely and totally appreciate the young man’s efforts this past year (the problem with 2017 North Penn was the D) and am disappointed that he’s now at Imhotep. For that matter there’s a good chance DePaul would have stayed at Norristown if Isaac Jones hadn’t been recruited to LaSalle. It creates a domino effect. Poor Norristown — they lost 2 QBs. They should have called 911; they were victims of a ‘home district invasion’.
Awwwwww……. Did the Big Bad Non Boundary Schools get their feelings hurt? Well just go to the nearest Youth League and ask their best players to come help your football team. That should make it all better. After all you need to keep the Boosters happy. Or is that college? Basically the same thing right.
I’ll follow along with Toby’s football talk…..
What’s the outlook for our beloved D12 PCL top teams, SJP, LaSalle and Wood?? SJP just re-load?? Their defense carried them for a good part of last year, until they implode the last two games (or were very over rated). I’ll assume another deep playoff run from them. Lasalle I though last year they’d make more noise, but still played well. That same old same old week 2 playoff meeting with SJP again. Really wish they would figure out a way to avoid each other so early in the playoffs. Injury to the QB, but the back-up stepped up nicely. Wood, new coach, lost D1 RB and TE (ok, they loose D1 talent every year, I get it), but like SJP, just reload?? Playing up in 5A shouldn’t be an issue and another deep playoff, if not another championship game appearance in the cards?? Any word on that possible rumored week 2?? match-up with Imhotep???
OK, the South Philly All-Stars, aka Neumann-Goeretti. One hit wonders?? Appears that they lost a ton of top talent. Any thoughts??
@ Darrl
NP does not get 3 or 4 transfers every year! Tired of hearing that crap!
The privates entire student/athletes are recruits, in effect. I mean nobody HAS to go to prep, LS or wood. One doesn’t have to go to a public school either, but if they don’t have the $$$, then they HAVE to.
Also, the privates CAN and DO give scholarships based on academics and NEED base. Let’s not pretend there’s little difference between boundary & non when recruiting!
Toby as I can see you like to target non boundary schools but why is it OK for.boundary schools to recruit? Just a coincidence north Penn gets 3 or 4 transfers a year that are great athletes? Same with other top public programs? Now I can agree changes need to be made bit please don’t act like public schools don’t play the same game.
Toby,
Just because it doesn’t occur in a classroom, doesn’t mean it’s not education. Most professionals will tell you that athletics and extra-curricular activities is every bit as important or more in the development of a student than Math, English, and Science Class. Also when talking about urban school districts especially successful athletic programs greatly increase the climate and culture of those buildings and have been universally proven to diminish high risk behaviors. Making the statement that athletics is not a part of the educational experience goes against everything most data and research by “the experts everywhere” that has been presented for the last 30 years.
Football it is then….
Coatesville will have the fastest team in the state
Manheim Central has a quarterback – Evan Simon – who already has an offer from West Virginia as a Sophomore and will be the best QB in the state before he graduates.
Cantral Dauphin and Wilson are both young and will be strong, but should peak next year.
Cumberland Valley lost a lot but will still be a tough squad as always.
And the reality is none of these proud, accomplished, awesome football programs, that are filled with tradition, have much of a chance against a Non Boundary School in the Philly area. They have 10 million people within an hour drive which make the probability of finding great athletes a lot easier.
There is a reason there are classifications in athletics…… The more kids in the school district the better chance of having more great athletes. The only people that can’t understand that are the same people that think Trump doesn’t know why the $130k went to Stormy 🙂
Hey Toby
While we are at it, let’s return the school property taxes to the people who send their children to Private/Catholic schools.
Someone mentioned Catholic schools budgets, let’s give equal time, public schools spend about 10k-15k per student per year and budgets are unbalanced and pensions severely underfunded and in crisis. Would be great if the constituents on here would be as passionate about real education reform in PA as they are about little timmy from public school getting state trophy..
We are on here because a love a HS football, let’s some, any football talk….
Since it has been confirmed (by the experts here) that Non-Boundary Schools have been established with the intent of a better education, perhaps they could dissolve their extracurricular activities and have the children participate in the Public School in which they live?
Then they could use all of the tuition just for educational purposes!!!
I’m sure this change would also increase enrollments from other families that just want the “educational benefit”.
Yes. It’s an issue in wrestling, volleyball, lacrosse, etc. Football and basketball just get the majority of the press. Here’s a good article that touches on other sports.
https://www.ydr.com/story/sports/high-school/2018/03/29/img-academy-other-elite-programs-take-top-athletes-what-high-school-sports-pennsylvania/344020002/
Outside of football and basketball (boys and girls) is this private/catholic/charter vs public boundary schools an issue?? Especially when talking about separate playoffs and championships??
Someone asked “what makes a Catholic education better education?” I worked in the admissions office of a University in Florida and we had schools ranked and graded based on their academics. Catholic and Private schools ranked much higher than Public schools in every state. A “B” grade at a Public school in Florida or a 3.0 GPA for example, wouldn’t tell us much because many of them would arrive to school and not be able to read or write well enough for college level courses. SAT and ACT scores on average were routinely higher, much higher in Catholic and Private schools. Typically classroom size is smaller in Catholic schools and discipline is higher leading to an atmosphere of excellence and character development.
Any news on last week’s meeting with Senator’s? That’s what I thought, nothing. Next time bring Donald Trump. Nothing will change the laws and by laws created by the PIAA. I guess a few hard heads thought bringing government officials would warrant automatic change and separation of playoffs.
Lol at the religious background comments regarding schools in the Philadelphia catholic league. Watch those schools play and you’ll see quick that they don’t behave like a school who promotes religion would.
ColonialFan – I agree completely with you!!!!
@colonialfan
From my experience yes catholic schools provide a better education for those that want it,however I do see a problem with a lot of these transfers but please don’t act like public schools don’t do it either.north Penn had 4 or 5 studs transfer in last year.cb west and neshaminy are the same.
@D12FAN…by the way it was the poster Daryl that offered up “better education”. It hasn’t just been him, better education is often used by Catholic school proponents.
@D12FAN….better education is one of the arguments that has always been used. If a kid grows up going to a Catholic school his entire life, I’m fine with that. The issue stems from kids, who happen to be stud athletes, showing up in 9th grade, 10th grade and sometimes even 12th grade. See all the previous examples of the kid showing up to Conwell after already completing his season in NJ, or the girls who shoes up to NG in late February just in time for the stretch run of playoffs, etc. I’m from the Lehigh Valley and last year a girl transferred from Central Catholic to Bethlehem Catholic for her senior year. Are you telling me she did that for educational purposes?? The school was that much better that she needed a change for her senior season?? By the way, Beca won a state title that year. People that continue to say there is not an issue are blind and biased. It’s ridiculous. There’s no inferiority comPlex. Facts have been laid out by more than one source. If you can’t even admit to seeing the disparity between boundary and non boundary you are flat out delusional.
@ McD65 and D12FAN
CapeMayboy?? LOL Been living in Philadelphia since 1995 and probably can count on two hands the amount of times that I’ve visited CM since then. But you can use that moniker if you so desire. Even President Obama, after some ribbing, acquiesced and accepted the term ‘Obamacare’. This message has been approved by phillyboy.
My apologies to Mike McGlinchey from Wm Penn Charter in Philly, the No. 9 overall pick in the draft. That would make 3 of the top 24 players picked from Eastern PA.
@ GK
You should of just stopped at “……best academic schools in the state.”
St Joe Prep and LaSalle are two of the best academic schools in the state. Last two mayors of philly went to Prep, Johnny Doc etc the networking that school provides you after you graduate is a major benefit. But at this point just take the catholic schools out of the PIAA this conversation is getting old.
Heard a rumor that a couple LL schools are being investigated for full contact practices at Spooky Nook indoor facility this winter. I don’t know those rules. Anyone else heard of this?
ColonialFan
I didn’t see anyone say it was catholic was better. Sounds like an inferiority comlex…