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@LBC
Nothing but athletes wanna go to Imhotep. Imhotep has branded its self as a legit ticket out of Philadelphia every kid in Philadelphia knows that. Furthermore, Imhotep is a lottery school but the lottery goes from Family if you have a relative or past grad in your family that attends the school you have a better chance of getting in. Example Rome Gunt #5 for Imhotep in 2014-2015 younger brother is currently Imhoteps #5 and Virginia U commit. Also like I said in my last post relationship from Imhotep staff gives kids ahead start to apply let’s say your kid is 8th grade but plays good lil league and Imhotep coach is currently his head coach he can ask the parents to look into Imhotep. (if this is there school of choice, no force or bribes involved aka scholarship that ALL catholic schools offer top talent to come play for them) if so they can apply to Imhotep for his/her 9th grade year in advance so not only does he have a head start into getting into the school but he is currently already ahead of the lottery.
@Matt, Several Heartland Conference teams have regular season games scheduled with non- conference teams. For example, Loyalsock and Mt. Carmel both play North Schuylkill, so I don’t believe there is any league only rule.
Doesn’t Imhotep have an enrollment lottery? Yet it seems all the top athletes who apply seem to get in? I don’t care if they have a top notch coaching staff or not. If they are keeping other students out of the school so they can enroll the athletes that is violating their charter.
@kevin, they play every school in the division I believe then have crossover games….kind of like how the EPC in the Lehigh valley is set up with Parkland, Whitehall, Emmaus, etc….they play two cross over games with the EPC North but have no outside league games anymore. They do play Selingsgrove who is a good 4A school. Selingsgrove actually took Bethlehem Catholic to the final minutes last year in 4A quarters. I’m not sure actually how crossover division games work in the Heartland conference as I’m a D11 colonial league guy but I know looking at thier schedule every year it’s only heartland conference games which leads me to believe it’s a league only reg season league.
@Foleman
If you did research instead of what you’re hearing from others you would clearly see that all those schools you listed was shut down just for that. Only school on that list still open is Imhotep you wonder why cause they where not found guilty of any of those charges or statements you put there name with. Crazy thing is every team that plays Imhotep in Philadelphia doesn’t complain they are excited and thanks Imhotep for putting the public league on the map. Only people that complain is other district champions Imhotep beats up on.
@Phillyboy
Imhotep welcomes all cultures to the school but I think that being considered a Public school scares off people that would rather put there kids in catholic schools. Imhotep has that QB from North Penn but other than that idk really.
Everybody thinks Imhotep is just taking kids from programs when Imhotep losses a lot of kids every year. Imhotep lost 1-3 D1 players this upcoming season they lost there young LT to Maryland powerhouse and nationally rank Saint Frances MD also lost Omar to Northeast I’m not gone name the rest but Imhotep losses more kids than any stable program in the state.
@ Foleman
Look, everybody is entitled to their opinion. I think the public charter schools are a total gimmick. On a larger level they were created to circumvent the teachers’ union and to cut down on expenses. The proponents of charters are playing dumb — they’re acting like they want the charters because of the poor quality or bad results of the traditional publics in low income areas. The bottom line is it’s about having prepared students and engaged parents. The charters make things more complicated. If they want to break the union or whatever then they got to stop the games and just play hard ball. I’ve always had some sentiment for labor unions as it evokes a greater sense of professionalism — as opposed to being a rented, expendable schnook. I don’t think new teachers are overpaid. It’s those with tenure and some administrators. Where a lot of money is being lost is in the PSERS program. Pensions are fine but there’s no way retired teachers or any profession should be getting close to full salary for the rest of their life. It’s simply too generous. It should be a helper or supplement. The other thought is for the retirees to tone down their life style. Anyway just some thoughts.
@ Mcd65 Thanks for the clarification. I was afraid people might think me and phillyboy were one in the same or some kind of weird conjoined twins. Scary thought 😉
@Tnd775 What is the issue you are referring to??
@ Matt Looking into the Heartland Conference, 19 schools, with 3 divisions?? So if you play another school from a different division, that counts as a conference game?? Is the divisions set up enrollment or classification wise, or geographically?? Does the conference mandate that you only play and schedule conference games?? Kind of a small pet peeve of mine that it seems like every D2 and D4 schools only play other D2 or D4 schools in the regular season. I enjoy the first few weeks of the season when you get to see teams play each other that they normally don’t. I’ll give kudos to Del Val up in D2 for hitting the road ever year for their first game the last several years and taking on some tough competition. Two trips to Florida, Parkland, Upper Dublin (at their recent peak), Downingtown East, and this year Pennridge.
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I absolutely root for Imhotep when they play private teams like Erie CP etc. but not when they play traditional publics. On a side note was just wondering why they never have any white players on their team. But yeah the youth football programs are awesome, I’m proud of those guys when they win national titles as Philadelphia teams. Lastly, just wanted to say that Imhotep this year has a very aggressive schedule; they open up with LaSalle, DeMatha, and St. Joe’s Regional…..that’s no joke. Would love to see them go 3-0 there.
????? This is what The State Investigation showed for the PSSA test:
The cheating at Imhotep Charter is very severe. The data shows the answer sheets that were modified was at a substantially high rate vs. standard deviation, higher in some grades than any other school in the state. And after the investigation was completed, TEP’S PSSA scores plummeted! HHHMMMM, wonder why? Plus, remember who the Philly Superintendent was at that time-Arlene Ackerman, who was busted for giving out million dollar no bid contracts to her friends.
Here is a list of the charter schools in Philly that were red flagged for modified answers:
CHARTER SCHOOLS
Alliance for Progress Charter
Charter High School for Architecture and Design
Imhotep Institute Charter High School
Maritime Academy Charter
Walter D. Palmer Leadership and Learning Partners Charter
Wissahickon Charter
Philadelphia Electrical and Technology Charter
Big 33 game on the move…….
https://www.thetimes-tribune.com/sports/hs-football-big-33-game-gets-new-name-and-date-1.2368426
@Foleman
“But some how all these great football players from the city somehow wind up there” – Your lack of knowledge about the program is where your down fall is. But to answer your question Imhotep coaching staff is full of head coaches from elite Pop Warner teams in Philadelphia like Northwest Raiders, NorthPhilly Aztecs, NorthPhilly Blackhawk, Enon Eagles so when you know the parents of those kids you’ve been teaching football to 4 years plus you get a relationship with parents. If your parent who has a son who has potential talent but u don’t have catholic school money or your child hasn’t received a scholarship for you send them to catholic school. You send your kid to Imhotep I’m not saying Imhotep is the best school but it’s better than sending your child to other public’s in Philadelphia. Plus on the cheating note if you really think Imhotep got caught CHEATING ON A STATE TEST AND GOT CAUGHT BY “THE STATE” YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULD STILL BE OPENED. Imhotep education speaks volumes for itself when you say there down near the bottom on academics but continues to put kids in college and it’s not like there dropping out there actually staying in school and maintaining college GPA’s for major athletic programs.
Like to hear from the Berwick boys. How will the “DAWG’S stack up? Also the boys from Dunmore a favorite team of mine. What is going on up there?
@Kevin….yes….all of southerns games are heartland conference games. They play a ten game league schedule like the colonial league does in dist 11. And actually like the EPC does now as well. The old LVC used to have a non league game first game but when they went to the EPC they are all league games now. That’s why Parkland, etc doesn’t play a non league game anymore like they used to play Glen Mills, Harrisburg etc.
???? David Williams, Omar Speights, Nasir Boykins, Chris Wells, Andre Mintz, Steve DePaul and dozens of others have something in common, they all transferred into Imhotep Charter from other schools. Tep is ranked near the bottom in academics in the State, the school was almost closed a few years ago due to poor test scores and cheating but somehow all of these great football players from the City somehow wind up there. TEP is one of the schools often listed by the PUBS as the main reason for separate playoffs. Your 2015 state champ squad had about a dozen transfers on it. Don’t give us the Northwest Raiders, no one is buying it.
PIAA should remove boundaries from all schools and just have one classification. They should also allow high school kids to be paid. In 5 years there will only be 10 schools remaining so we won’t need to hear how great Southern Columbia is in 2A. Move up or Shut up!
kevinx/phillyboy, That was me posting. DUH !!!! sorry for the mistake.
Cracks me up about all this public/private when it’s literally only a few teams causing the issue
Imhotep doesn’t recruit. When you have the #1 Pop Warner program in the nation practicing @ the same field where one of the top Highschools in the state play your gonna have a lot of talent coming. Jus cause 1. Northwest Raiders And Imhotep practices @ the same field 2. Head Coach of the 4x defending national champions is a Imhotep coach 3. Northwest Raiders kids watch Imhotep practices all the time before there own practices starts (which starts right after Imhotep) 4. Imhotep was very young this year and still made it to the state finals with barely no seniors 5. Imhotep school is in a very high area that produces a rich amount of talent for Philadelphia 6. Proof of Talent Zaire Franklin David Williams Dj Moore Deandre Scott Deandre Swift Jaelen Strong etc the list can go on but most of those players came from lil league programs that are all no more than a couple blocks from Imhotep
@mark
I have no idea. I never even knew about the meeting until I stumbled upon a couple of articles about it on Pennlive while checking out some Penn State articles. Who knows what will become of it. One interesting note is that of the 150 or so attendees listed, no District 12 school (or City of Philadelphia) was present, and only one or two D1 districts are present.
@Matt
All 10 of SC games are conference games?? I believe Fleming is No. 3 nationwide on ESPN’s Jr. 300 for the class of 2020. Hoping he commits to play an hour or so west.
Some info on the new transfer rules and “playing-up” stuff…..
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/highschool/2018/07/24/Superintendents-principals-ADs-meet-to-discuss-PIAA-playoff-equity/stories/201807240128
I enjoy all the controversy about Southern Co.football it is good for this forum. I heard the word (peak). Watch the underclass they are diamonds in the rough and are extremely good. Look to them in the future. Can’t wait for the season to start.
@ndgp82
Yes, ND could very realistically win the Colonial League this year. I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened. I’m just giving the edge to Palisades based on their size and physicality on the offensive and defensive lines. ND hasn’t handled more physical type games well.
I understand how the classifications are set. However, if you look at roster sizes for other 3A schools it is no where near 75/80. Why is that? It’s not just because more kids decided to play at ND, it’s because ND recruits kids to specifically play football their. And yes, any co-ed non prep Catholic school has an advantage when they are able to do that. Just look at schools like Beca and Berks Catholic to name a couple.
@ndgp82
Yes, ND could very well win the Colonial League this year. I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. I’m giving the edge to Palisades due to their physicality and size on the offensive and defensive lines. ND hasn’t handled more physical types of games recently.
I understand how classifications are set. However, look at other 3A schools and their roster size. It’s not just that more kids want to play at ND, it’s that ND recruits kids specifically to come there and play football. Yes, that puts them at an advantage. There are plenty of co-ed non prep Catholic schools that take every advantage of this…Beca, Berks Catholic, etc.
Im a fan of what So. Columbia has accomplished and will accomplish the next couple of years ,but to suggest a game against Archbishop Wood or Imhotep would not be a good idea. Those two are just too powerful and fast. So. should stay where they are. Lets not get carried away.