Comments on: Class AA Preview – Imhotep Charter (12) 12-2

By: O.L. Coach

O.L. Coach — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 02:58:07 +0000

@the quite one, I’m really glad for your son that he was successful at a charter. That said there are studies that charters spend on average like 8k a year more educating each student with little to no improvement in the educational outcome.

By: fwgritty

fwgritty — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 00:14:04 +0000

@Jason, classifications are based on enrollment of boys or girls grades 9-11. So if all Philly Public schools be required to compete at AAAA, that would be biased against those kids. Just because the kids can go to any school with exceptions to a few schools. As in most charters case, they have a open lottery system in place for 9th grade.

By: Colin

Colin — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:25:35 +0000

JAson,

On paper that would make sense. But you have many schools in Phila. like Roxborugh, Ben Franklin West Phila. that have no business being thrown in with 4a team. Phila is a different animal compared to the rest of the state. I invite you to check out the main fan blog on this website. Posters like Jive Turkey and 17th and G have posted very good info about Phila schools and how things are different. There is loads of info there. Check it out.

By: Jason McElhaney

Jason McElhaney — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:48:06 +0000

Thank you for the responses. I was not aware that anyone within the Philly city limits could attend any public school they wanted. Personally I think that is a great idea to give students/parents that freedom. However, if that is the case then I think that those schools should automatically have to play in AAAA in everything. That is quite a population to draw from in comparison to other AA or AAA schools.

By: Billy Splain

Billy Splain — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:44:29 +0000

@Colin….thanks for that info…we outsiders are still tryin to get a grasp on the phila systems….here charters are far and few so outside the school district students can apply. I actually did some checking and indeed students from outside philly can attend philly charters BUT may not participate in PIAA sports as a resident of that school.

@the quite one: Sorry, we’ll disagree. Maybe some charters have higher standards and hold to them but charter were created to escape the state and national educational standards and offer different platforms of education. Nobody controls the standards to which they perform, nor does the performance affect public and federal funding such as what might happen at a public school.

By: Colin

Colin — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:41:30 +0000

Billy,

I cant speak for the rest of the state but in Phila only Phila school district students can attend Phila. charters. Look up what happened with Prep Charter’s Girls basketball team last season. 2 girls from Coatsville were illegally enrolled because they were not Phila residents. They had to forfeit all games the 2 girls played in. Academics? im in agreement with you. There are certainly shady charters to say the least.
But thats another argument for another time. But in answering Jason’s question about boundaries and were Imhotep’s players come from, the charters in Phila. are bound by the same city limits that traditional Phila public school teams like Frankford, George Washington and Northeast are. So a kid from Norristown would be unable to attend Imhotep but could enroll at any Phila Catholic school such as Roman, West Catholic, Neumann-Goretti etc etc. That’s the difference I was referring to.

By: the quite one

the quite one — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:19:25 +0000

@billy your wrong about the education at charter schools in philly. There education guide lines are tougher then the public schools. That why people are rushing down to get their kids in role in charter schools. If dont know please dont come on and give false information about charter schools. My son learned more at a charter school then if he was in a public school.

By: Billy Splain

Billy Splain — Thu, 12 Dec 2013 22:46:48 +0000

Colin…I’m pretty sure anyone can attend any charter school. They are publicly funded schools that are run by, well, any educator that wishes to open one. And it’s not just the Phila school district, it’s the state education board that the charter school doesn’t follow. Personally, I do NOT like them…they allow kids to get through high school on less strict educations values.

By: Colin

Colin — Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:38:06 +0000

Jason,

The Phila. school district is open enrollment. Any student may attend any school of his/her choice. There isn’t much difference between a charter and a public school. The only difference is a charter is run by an outside entity instead of the Phila school district. A student from outside of the Phila SD is not permitted to attend any charter or public school in the city. This is not the case for a Catholic school as a student can attend from pretty much anywhere.

By: Jason McElhaney

Jason McElhaney — Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:05:13 +0000

I’m aware the Imhotep plays in the Philly Public League, but are they truly a public school? Do they have school district boundaries? Isn’t that what distinguishes between public and non-public?